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« on: October 01, 2009, 01:28:36 AM »

I am searching for some kind of HCL list for Haiku but came up short.

What do we know that works 100% with Haiku?

How about the old BeOS supported hardware. Are they still supported?
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 05:20:18 AM »

What do we know that works 100% with Haiku?

It very much depends on how much you're willing to redefine 100%. The easiest barn side to hit is "it makes some sort of use of it" let's call that 25% working. Haiku does pretty well here for PC graphics cards via VESA, for most ATA controllers and drives, and for trivial peripherals like keyboards. It has some coverage for network cards, USB storage, and audio.

But a lot of people expect more, what I'd call 90%, they want the features of their hardware exploited, and on that Haiku does pretty poorly. Almost every component has a lot of nice features that Haiku can't use or doesn't try to. This ends up being a big waste of power and performance.

And if Haiku's supposed to be "better" than Windows for desktop users they're also going to wonder where that last 10% went, and that's all in software. This is the place where reviewers often score Linux distributions short. They bought a cheap device for their PC which says it has "3D stereo sound" and it has a "True 3D" button on their toolbar, so they want to know why Linux doesn't "support" the true 3D feature. The uncomfortable truth is that there is no "feature", it's a cheap audio processing trick in software bundled with the device. To get to that 100% score Haiku's developers need to replicate hundreds of features implemented in the software drivers for these products. It's not fair, but that's the situation.

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How about the old BeOS supported hardware. Are they still supported?

There's no good rule of thumb for this. In cases where BeOS supported hardware that was already pretty ancient (ISA network cards? serial port modems?) there's generally been no development effort on Haiku to support them because no-one much cares.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2009, 01:42:48 AM »

It's more or less the same things as in the good ol' days then Smile

I remember testing every piece of hardware that get my eyes on and see if it worked with Be back then, from obscure Tseng Labs graphics cards to NE2000 compatible ISA NICs that worked 50 percent of the time.

I remember 3Coms and Intel network adapters being the most sought after NIC's back then (Hello 3C905TX, i still got 4 of you) , Atheros seem to be doing the same task on the wifi front.

Do you get better than vesa support from newer nvidia and ati pci-e graphics cards these days?


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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2009, 06:04:59 PM »

You don't get anything better than VESA on the newest ATI/nVidia cards, no. However, VESA in Haiku and VESA in BeOS are two very, very different propositions. Haiku's VESA driver is double-buffered and relatively fast.

Those Tseng Labs graphics cards, if PCI, actually have a native Haiku driver scarily enough...

Network drivers are one thing Haiku has in abundance due to being able to relatively easily port FreeBSD ones.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 02:36:01 AM »

I still got a pile of old and new hardware around. I guess i should test it all to see Smile
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2015, 12:37:08 AM »

As for laptops, there still is this (overlooked) source which has user submitted BeOS/Haiku/Zeta compatibility info on 108 models:

https://web.archive.org/web/20080315115651/http://laptop.hug-nordic.org/
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